Herbs & Spices in Joint Supplements

Prolonged use of some herbs has proven to be life-threatening. And JUST THE USE of others may help a normal person under normal circumstances, but trigger the "N" (in RANTS).

Medicinal herbs are plant-derived drugs. They do not belong in a daily nutritional joint supplement. This page collects the safety information, the full list of herbs to avoid for prolonged daily use, and the reasons MD’s Choice formulated Arthrosamine without them.

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Some of the most common herbs used in joint products, and the type of chemicals they contain... or produce... are:

YUCCA:

Yucca contains steroid saponins. These chemicals are related to the steroids. In the animal's body they decrease pain and inflammation. They also decrease the immune response, and steroids have been shown to slow the production of glycosaminoglycans (GAG's), which are a major component of joint tissues.

The main use of Yucca in animal feeds has been to promote feed efficiency and growth, while lowering the amount of ammonia in the manure (so that it won't smell as bad).

Science has proven that animals with daily prolonged use of Yucca have joints that appear to age much quicker. However, because these animals have a limited life expectancy, the results are ignored. For livestock, it probably doesn't matter... but for people, human joints, and those animals that are supposed to live longer than 2 or 3 years, it should absolutely matter!

Yucca plant - Herbs are Drugs

Herbs are Drugs

Boswellia, White Willow's Bark, and Snake Root.

These are all herbs containing chemicals that act as NSAID's. These drugs decrease pain and inflammation and are known to cause severe gastrointestinal (GI) problems such as ulcers. These drugs should not be used in people or animals with GI problems; or daily for prolonged periods of time.

Remember, in people, gastric ulcers digestive problems are already common because of our fast food diets, junk food, alcohol, sodas, and irregular eating habits.

Plant derived drugs

Plant derived drugs

Bromelain

This is an enzyme found in pineapples. Yes, it has been shown to reduce the amount of swelling present in some experimental animals and people. However, Bromelain can enter the body intact because it eats away the outer lining of the GI tract (something any body with digestive issues should absolutely avoid). In addition, in cancer patients, it has been shown to stimulate the body's own immune system to kill the body's own cells. Since it is a protein, it can cause allergic reactions. People who merely handle bromelain on a daily basis for a few months have become highly allergic to it.

Pineapple field - pineapple pain killer

pineapple pain killer

Devil's Claw

This herb contains several chemicals that are reported to decrease pain. They do not decrease inflammation and are similar in structure to steroids. It is generally easier on the digestive tract than Bute, or many of the other common herbal pain killers.

However, Serious WARNING: This herb should not be used with any female (human or animal) that is pregnant, or actively breeding with the purpose of getting pregnant, as it has been reported that it can cause abortions by stimulating uterine contractions. There is over 4,000 years of evidence, in African Culture and Chinese medicine, of this particular herb being used to terminate pregnancies in the early stages and induce labor in the later stages. Yet you'll see it in many American joint supplements, sometimes without any such critical warning.

Is it because they don't know any better, or just plain don't care?

Devil's Claw plant - herbs are drugs

herbs are drugs

EVERY SINGLE herb & spice on the list below 

should be avoided for DAILY PROLONGED USE without specific instructions of a healthcare professional; many altogether. 

Agave
Agrimony
Aloe Vera
American Pennyroyal
Angelica
Arbor Viae
Arnica
Autumn Crocus
Balm of Gilead
Barberry
Basil Oil
Beth Root
Black Cohosh
Blessed Thistle
Blood Root
Blue Cohosh
Broom
Bugleweed
Butternut
Calendula
Chaparral
Chaste tree
Clove Oil
Cohosh (see black, blue, and red)
Comfrey
Cotton root
Cowslip
Cumin Seed
Damania
Dong Quai
Echinacea
Elecampane
Ephedra

Evening primrose
European Pennyroyal
False Unicorn Root
Feverfew
Garlic
Gentian
Ginger
Gingko
Ginseng
Golden Seal
Goldenrod
Gota Kola
Gravel root
Greater Celndine
Green Tea
Guarana
Hawthorn
Honeysuckle
Hops
Horse chestnut
Horseradish
Horsetail
Hydrangea
Hyssop
Ipecac
Iris
Juniper
Juniper berries
Juniper Oil
Kava Kava
Kola nut
Lady’s Mantle
Lady’s Slipper

Lemon balm
Licorice
Life Root
Lily of the Valley
Lobelia
Lovage
Lungwort
Ma Huang
Malefern
Mandrake
Melissa
Milk Thistle
Mistletoe
Motherwort
Mugwort
Myrrh
Oregon Grape root
Orris
Osha
Palsatilla
Parsley
Passion Flower
Pennyroyal
Periwinkle
Peruvian Bark
Rhubarb
Saw palmetto
St. John’s Wort
Thyme
Valerian
Witch Hazel
Tea Tree Oil


Herbal supplements come in all shapes and delivery methods: dried, whole, chopped, powdered, roots, stems, flowers, or sap ... and found in capsule, sav, or liquid form... for either eating (or drinking), OR strictly TOPICAL (applied to effected areas of the skin), or BATH WATER (with some absorbed through skin, in more systemic fashion). Most of those intended for bath water or topicals CAN NOT BE SAFELY EATEN or MIXED IN A DRINK!


The practice of using herbal supplements dates back thousands of years, BUT WAS NOT something MOST people, or just anyone could safely do! IT REQUIRED TRAINING! Education, practice, knowledge, and notes! Tons of notes! About WHEN, WHERE, and HOW to harvest, process, and safely use. While herbal supplements are common in here in the USA, the training and safety issues regarding the PROPER USE, and WISE USE, is not so common. Determining how has EFFECTIVE product, and is just sprinkling an inconsistent amount over a vat of tap water, is also impossible. KNOWING what you're looking for, helps determine some reality, and safety.


Herbs are not for everyone, and should be used with BOTH CAUTION and reasonable care, because they are NOT subject to ANY real or close scrutiny by the FDA or other governing agencies. The potency, consistency, and dosing can be all over the place, even from batch to batch, within the same company.


St. John's Wort is great example of a popular herbal supplement: used for depression, mood swings, and hormonal issues, in some cases, the product often can't legally state that... but rather something like "enhances mood."


The FDA does NOT 'regulate' or 'mandate' the CONTENTS of the container, but the CLAIMS ON THE LABEL. Companies can't CLAIM to TREAT anything, even if they actually and usually can, without specific scientific proof - a peer reviewed study, or scientific abstracts MAKING THOSE CLAIMS. Other than salmonella and e Coli, there are NO REQUIRED TESTS/TESTING for herbal products. NOTHING that guarantees there are no pesticides, no herbicides, no heavy metals in the soil or other common contaminants in some soils in some parts of the world. THAT, is the fundamental issue with HERBAL remedies.


Some companies may use words like 'safe,' 'natural,' or 'standardized' on the label, but it does NOT mean the same from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Educate yourself.

  • Research the company whose herbs you're using.
  • Follow label instructions carefully.
  • Work with a professional.
  • Watch for side effects.
  • Watch for allergic reactions.

Ask yourself:

  • Are they PROMOTING EDUCATION?
  • Are they issuing OVERUSE CAUTIONS?
  • Are they TESTING for heavy metals and common contaminants?
  • Where and HOW is that company researching the products it's creating?
  • Is the label information clear and easy to read?
  • Does the product/company make ANY outlandish or hard-to-prove claims?
  • Does the product label give information about the standardized formula, variable dosing, known side effects with any ingredients, directions, and precautions?

  • Is there a telephone number, address, website listed so consumers can find more information about the product/company?
Much more information on Herbs can be found on-line. PubMed, WebMD, and HerbsAreDrugs.com are other resources worth checking out if you need more info. There really is a great deal of valid science on nearly every ingredient found in nearly every joint supplement, now and the future, despite claims of 'newly discovered' or 'miracle cure' when it comes to SUPPLEMENTATION, little is actually 'new.' 

Remember These Points

As Nutrition is the third most important thing in life, behind air and water (in that order). 

  • Nutritional support can most definitely help maintain and heal joint tissues.
  • Be an educated consumer.
  • Ingredient quality is extremely important.
  • Be sure that you are buying the proper building blocks in the supplements you purchase.
  • Be sure that when you use a daily supplement, you are providing nutrition, not just drug masking or blocking symptoms.
  • MAKE SURE you understand the ACTUAL GOALS of a product, and the company that made the product(s):

  • Are they formulated by professionals to address structural problems, or the 'illusion of a quick fix' (pain blocking and symptom masking)?
  • Do they truly want to HELP their fellow man get better, or JUST MAKE MONEY by temporarily masking or blocking?
  • Are they professionals that understand the differences in nutrients, and want to address structural problems... or just cover pain or mask symptoms?
  • LEARNING to UNDERSTAND THE BASICS of nutrition can help you quickly figure that out, most of the time. For example: mainstream big box stores, and joe’s vitamin shop with some high school kid or non-nutritional person, is stocking or pushing the latest ingredient of the month, buzz word miracle, or they have a bunch of products containing carbonates or oxides, or glucosamine HCl in the supplements they sell… THOSE THINGS should be YELLOW & RED FLAGS, telling you they do NOT understand nutrition, safety, or efficacy.
  • Structural changes through nutritional supplementation take weeks, not days, to be seen.

• Beware of "one size fits all" doses.

The amount of nutrients needed by an individual is based on individual factors, such as: weight, age, severity of the problem or deficiency, other medications and treatments, as well as their personal goals. Ultimately, it's often 'time vs money' (or visa versa). However, healing is what healing is, and no amount of money can truly make it 'instant' or 'painless;' but rather only mask it or block it.  

For example:

  • An athlete, attempting to prepare for their next competition, will benefit more from a slightly higher dose than the average person.
  • In general, a younger person will need less than an older person.
  • A large person may initially require more than a smaller body.
  • A sedentary person less than a competitive and highly active one.