Herbs & Spices in Joint Supplements

Prolonged use of some herbs has proven to be life-threatening. And JUST THE USE of others may help a normal person under normal circumstances, but trigger the "N" (in RANTS).

Medicinal herbs are plant-derived drugs. They do not belong in a daily nutritional joint supplement. This page collects the safety information, the full list of herbs to avoid for prolonged daily use, and the reasons MD’s Choice formulated Arthrosamine without them.

The Drug Induced Liver Injury Network (DILIN) reported that over 15 million Americans EACH YEAR take herbal supplements that may be toxic to the liver.

A study discovers the breadth of consumption of herbal supplements, which were previously shown to be potentially toxic to the liver.

“Our interest started when we saw cases of liver toxicity from herbal and dietary supplement use in people enrolled into the ongoing NIH funded DILIN study,” said Alisa Likhitsup, M.D., M.P.H., a clinical assistant professor of medicine at U-M and lead author on the paper.

“But it was difficult to say how many people were using these supplements and why. The major finding here is the large number of Americans taking these products with an estimated 15 million adult Americans taking them on a regular basis.” https://dilin.org/

Some of the most common herbs used in joint products, and the type of chemicals they contain... or produce... are:

YUCCA:

Yucca contains steroid saponins. These chemicals are related to the steroids. In the animal's body they decrease pain and inflammation. They also decrease the immune response, and steroids have been shown to slow the production of glycosaminoglycans (GAG's), which are a major component of joint tissues.

The main use of Yucca in animal feeds has been to promote feed efficiency and growth, while lowering the amount of ammonia in the manure (so that it won't smell as bad).

Science has proven that animals with daily prolonged use of Yucca have joints that appear to age much quicker. However, because these animals have a limited life expectancy, the results are ignored. For livestock, it probably doesn't matter... but for people, human joints, and those animals that are supposed to live longer than 2 or 3 years, it should absolutely matter!

Yucca plant - Herbs are Drugs

Herbs are Drugs

Boswellia, White Willow's Bark, and Snake Root.

These are all herbs containing chemicals that act as NSAID's. These drugs decrease pain and inflammation and are known to cause severe gastrointestinal (GI) problems such as ulcers. These drugs should not be used in people or animals with GI problems; or daily for prolonged periods of time.

Remember, in people, gastric ulcers digestive problems are already common because of our fast food diets, junk food, alcohol, sodas, and irregular eating habits.

Plant derived drugs

Plant derived drugs

Bromelain

This is an enzyme found in pineapples. Yes, it has been shown to reduce the amount of swelling present in some experimental animals and people. However, Bromelain can enter the body intact because it eats away the outer lining of the GI tract (something any body with digestive issues should absolutely avoid). In addition, in cancer patients, it has been shown to stimulate the body's own immune system to kill the body's own cells. Since it is a protein, it can cause allergic reactions. People who merely handle bromelain on a daily basis for a few months have become highly allergic to it.

Pineapple field - pineapple pain killer

pineapple pain killer

Devil's Claw

This herb contains several chemicals that are reported to decrease pain. They do not decrease inflammation and are similar in structure to steroids. It is generally easier on the digestive tract than Bute, or many of the other common herbal pain killers.

However, Serious WARNING: This herb should not be used with any female (human or animal) that is pregnant, or actively breeding with the purpose of getting pregnant, as it has been reported that it can cause abortions by stimulating uterine contractions. There is over 4,000 years of evidence, in African Culture and Chinese medicine, of this particular herb being used to terminate pregnancies in the early stages and induce labor in the later stages. Yet you'll see it in many American joint supplements, sometimes without any such critical warning.

Is it because they don't know any better, or just plain don't care?

Devil's Claw plant - herbs are drugs

herbs are drugs

EVERY SINGLE herb & spice on the list below 

should be avoided for DAILY PROLONGED USE without specific instructions of a healthcare professional; many altogether.

Adhoguda Evening primrose Melissa (aka Lemon balm)
Agave False Unicorn Root Mildewed sugarcane
Agrimony Feverfew Milk Thistle
Akee Flying Saucers Mistletoe
Alfalfa Garlic Monkshood
Aloe Vera Gentian Moon flower
American Pennyroyal Germander Morning glory
Angelica Ginger Motherwort
Angel's Trumpet Gingko Mugwort
Apple Seed Ginseng Mutis
Apricot Kernels Golden Seal Myrrh
Arbor Viae Goldenrod Neem
Arnica Gota Kola Nutmeg
Autumn Crocus Gravel root Oregon Grape root
Ayahuasca Greater Celndine Orris
Badoh negro Green Tea Osha Palsatilla
Balm of Gilead Guarana Parsley
Barberry Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Passion Flower
Basil Oil Hawthorn Pearly Gates
Beth Root Heavenly blue Pennyroyal
Black Cohosh Heliotrope Periwinkle
Blessed Thistle Hemlock Peruvian Bark
Blood Root Holly Philodendron
Blue Cohosh Holy Thistle Pink oleander
Blue Star Honeysuckle Podophyllum
Broom Hops Pokeweed
Bugleweed Horse chestnut Rhododendron
Butcher's broom Horseradish Rhubarb
Butternut Horsetail Ricinus
Calendula Huan glian Rosary peas
Cantharidin Beetle Powders Hydrangea Royal Jelly
Canthaxanthin Hyssop Saw palmetto
Castor beans Ipecac Skullcap (possibly)
Chan-su Iris Snakeplant
Chaparral Jequirity seeds South American mutis
Chaste tree Jimson Weed Spotted Thistle
Chinaberry Juniper berries Spurge family
Christmaspops Juniper Oil Squill
Christmasvine Juniper roots Squirting cucumber
Citronella oil Kava Kava St. Benedict's Thistle
Climbing lily Kola nut St. John’s Wort
Clove Oil Kratom Summer Skies
Cohosh (see black, blue, and red) Lady’s Mantle Tea Tree Oil
Comfrey Lady’s Slipper Thorn Apple
Cotton root Lemon balm Thread-leafed groundsel
Cowslip Licorice Thyme
Crotalaria spp Life Root Tree tobacco
Cumin Seed Liliiflorae sona Trompetilla
Damania Lily of the Valley Valerian
Dhaturo Lobelia Vidhara
Dong Quai Lovage Wedding Bells
Echinacea Lungwort White chameleon
Elecampane Lupin beans Wintergreen oil
Elephant Creeper Ma Huang Witch Hazel
Ephedra Mad Apple Woolly Morning Glory
Estramonio Madak Yagjinhua
Eucalyptus oil Malefern Yellow oleander
Euphorbiaceae Mandrake Yew
European Pennyroyal Mate′ tea


Herbal supplements come in all shapes and delivery methods: dried, whole, chopped, powdered, roots, stems, flowers, or sap ... and found in capsule, sav, or liquid form... for either eating (or drinking), OR strictly TOPICAL (applied to effected areas of the skin), or BATH WATER (with some absorbed through skin, in more systemic fashion). Most of those intended for bath water or topicals CAN NOT BE SAFELY EATEN or MIXED IN A DRINK!


The practice of using herbal supplements dates back thousands of years, BUT WAS NOT something MOST people, or just anyone could safely do! IT REQUIRED TRAINING! Education, practice, knowledge, and notes! Tons of notes! About WHEN, WHERE, and HOW to harvest, process, and safely use. While herbal supplements are common in here in the USA, the training and safety issues regarding the PROPER USE, and WISE USE, is not so common. Determining how has EFFECTIVE product, and is just sprinkling an inconsistent amount over a vat of tap water, is also impossible. KNOWING what you're looking for, helps determine some reality, and safety.


Herbs are not for everyone, and should be used with BOTH CAUTION and reasonable care, because they are NOT subject to ANY real or close scrutiny by the FDA or other governing agencies. The potency, consistency, and dosing can be all over the place, even from batch to batch, within the same company.


St. John's Wort is great example of a popular herbal supplement: used for depression, mood swings, and hormonal issues, in some cases, the product often can't legally state that... but rather something like "enhances mood."


The FDA does NOT 'regulate' or 'mandate' the CONTENTS of the container, but the CLAIMS ON THE LABEL. Companies can't CLAIM to TREAT anything, even if they actually and usually can, without specific scientific proof - a peer reviewed study, or scientific abstracts MAKING THOSE CLAIMS. Other than salmonella and e Coli, there are NO REQUIRED TESTS/TESTING for herbal products. NOTHING that guarantees there are no pesticides, no herbicides, no heavy metals in the soil or other common contaminants in some soils in some parts of the world. THAT, is the fundamental issue with HERBAL remedies.

Remember These Points

Nutrition is the third most important thing in life, behind air and water (in that order). 

The amount of nutrients needed by an individual are based on individual factors, such as: weight, age, severity of the problem or deficiency, other medications and treatments, ACTIVITY LEVEL, as well as their other personal goals. Ultimately, it's often 'time vs money' (or visa versa); However, healing is what healing is, and no amount of money can truly make some things 'instant' or 'painless;' but rather only mask it or block it while the healing occurs (or not).

For example:

Some companies may use words like 'safe,' 'natural,' or 'standardized' – ‘vegan,’ non-GMO, ‘holistic,’ or other such descriptors on the label of their products, but REMEMBER: THOSE MARKETING WORDS DO NOT ALWAYS or USUALLY MEAN THE SAME from manufacturer to manufacturer, from marketer to marketer, from person to person!

Educate yourself.

LEARN ABOUT EVERY COMPANY you are regularly dealing with:
(this is pretty easy IF you answer the following questions for yourself):

Much more information on Herbs can be found on-line. PubMed, WebMD, and HerbsAreDrugs.com are other resources worth checking out if you need more info.

There really is a great deal of valid science on nearly every ingredient found in nearly every joint supplement in the world, now and the future, despite claims of 'newly discovered' or 'miracle cure' when it comes to SUPPLEMENTATION, little is actually 'new.’ Most of those ingredients are discussed on MDsChoice.com. If you there is an ingredient you need more information about, in a joint supplement, EMAIL US… and we’ll try to help you (and others) learn more about it – and what it actually does in a body.

Be aware that potency, consistency, and contaminants… these are particularly important and common issues with many Chinese herbal remedies. Note, there are key differences in WHERE ‘the herb’ is from: stem, root, leaf, sap, or flower... as well as what stage of growth... any herbicides, insecticides, heavy metals or other contaminants in the soil or water used to grow the plants. Those inconsistencies are what contribute to the dangers. They are NOT ALL THE SAME, even if they have the same ‘name.’

AWARENESS IS KEY!